Yaoi o antiyaoi, esa es la cuestión...[2]

[ariadnem]

I wanted to begin this in Spanish, but I think I better do it in English, I can translate it later on.  Anyways, I've been delaying this for so long now, and I think it's time to do it.

holymegasaint  to me is not a sane person.  Her way to describe people who like yaoi is to say the least...depicable.  She calls us "insane" and even heterophobic.  I wish I could slap her in her face for such a thing.  Oh yes, I have to admit there are fans who can'control themselves and become a pain in everyone's ass, but not everybody is like that.

I respect everyone's point of view, but I believe this girl has crossed the line of my patience and I've lost it.  I'm old enough to be someone's older sister.  I got married almost six years ago, and I love yaoi.  What does it make me, then?  An insane person?  I'm not heterophobic whatsoever.  I love men, I love sex with men (never tried a gal, though). Anyways

I've been ranting about them (antiyaoi people) for months already. It's not that  they're wrong.  They're entitled to like whatever they please; it's the way they express themselves, the way in which they pretend to have all the reason and the right to mistreat others.  That's what makes me angry.  Really angry. it's the same way priests treated people during the Inquisition.  Straight have treated gays for decades.  Men have treated women.  All this to me is, unacceptable.

Again, I accept there are girls who also cross the line in the yaoi world.  We, the people who write yaoi take a character and create for him a setting in which he's in love with another man.  Now, just because we make them homosexual doesn't mean they're damisels in danger, and unfortunately they're portrayed like that.  Most of times.  Not everybody does, though.  That was the first thing my husband told me when he read my first yaoi story ever.  "don't turn then into women, Cone.  They're men, despite their sexual preferences."  he was 100% right.  (he always is)

Now, I have said things like "they should get a life" "they should get laid every now and then." I know what I've said is too...bold and inpudent, but let me explain myself here.  In the yaoi world, we write a lot about sex and explore relationships to a very deep extent.   I wonder if the people who complain so much about yaoi all the time have ever read Toffee's stories, or Animom's or Sagakure's or many other writers who have created good things.  They complain and say yaoi doesn't have a background.  It does. My stories are that...my stories, but they do have a background.  The ones by the people I've mentioned before and by others whose name I can't  recollect at the moment, have a background, one so powerful, we've cried with them, and laughed and said, "they're good".  Also, in yaoi, we explore sex a lot.  Why?  I truly don't have an answer for that and even when in non yaoi fics some people do, they tend to be so lamely written and the woman ends up being so...dunno...Mary Sue???

I  know there are people out there who have written very good non yaoi stories.  One of my favorites, no, my favorite one is "La Batalla de los Doce Tresors" by Altair.  I discovered yaoi first, then this one story, it's wonderful. 

It's non yaoi...what does it make me then?  I like yaoi....non yaoi...what a freaking freak I am.!!!!!  oh God forgive me!!!!!... for liking what I like and for being who I am...btw....thanks for making me that way ^_~

Anyways, I'm enraged with the antiyaoi groups who can't show some respect.  yes, we take characters other people have created and make something different out of it.  It's pretty clear to me that we, the yaoi fans, are a wee bit more respectful than they'd probably ever be.  No, I don't accept rabbid yaoi fangirls, but then again, don't make things general.  I'm mad at the girls who have been around writing all that crap about us, and about yaoi.  I'm mad at the insulting comments they make, so full of anger, frustration and rubbish.

holymegasaint , you asked me at the Saint Seiya Zone Forum to upload some images of yours and your friend shunjune at Labyrinth, my website.  I tried to be polite and answered that you have to keep in mind my web has yaoi content in it.  Well, this is my answer to you.  You are not welcome at my Labyrinth.  Nor is your friend.  Had you shown a different attitude, a more respectful one, things might have been different, but well, that's my answer.  I thought I lived in a century where tolerance was part of our daily lives, but I was wrong.  You and all your friends have proved me how wrong I was.  So, get your antiyaoi groups, life and so and enjoy them greatly .  I wish you the best. I hope you can learn how to write better in both, English and Spanish. I hope your Antiyaoi League works fine.  And that you actually get a f****** life.  I hope you are a happy person one of these days.

And I also hope I can have you as far from me as possible.

I won't hide this post, I'll leave it open for whoever wants to comment, since we, contrary to you, do know what to say and how. 

Comments

[selene-18.livejournal.com]

Well, this proves now those damn anti-yaoi can't just show some f***** respect. I just hate them. And now, BECAUSE of them, I start hating het stuff, because they use it as a damn flag to go around showing off and imposing their absurd point of view.

You know what? I'm not going to let het stuff in "El descanso del guerrero" for a single reason:

Homophobes and prudes like Megacrap, who think we all should write hetero stuff and not yaoi stuff because it's bad, DIE!!! Now I've found another reason not to accept het stuff for "El descanso del guerrero".

Thanks to people like Megacrap!!! Indeed!!!

My words for you, Megacrap: Improve your grammar in both languages and broaden your horizons before someone else stomps over you like a punny ant.

[selene-18.livejournal.com]

Wanna laugh? Check this:

Yo me les uno ya me que canse que siempre digan que mi amado Camus es Gay y lo ponga de pareja con otros, eso no me gusta asi que cuentan con mi apoyo para borrar el Yaoi ;D

Isn't she idiot? Thinking they can delete yaoi... Hah... Damn lamers....

[luxshine.livejournal.com]

I can delete yaoi. It's really simple, actually. There's this nifty button in my computer that says 'delete' and if I write yaoi, I can delete it. Or delete the files from my computer. Amazing that this girls need help finding the button. Or maybe their computers do not have a 'delete' button.

Seriously, my personal position is 'don't like, don't read'. I love yaoi practically everywhere, but in some fandoms I can't stand it. So, I don't look for yaoi fics in those fandoms. Plus, I understand the difference between canon and fanon, something this girls don't seem to grasp. Canon isn't gay, sure. He isn't straight either. Why? Because Kurumada was a bit busy showing us that he would die for his beliefs and didn't deem important to tell us what side of the sex mambo does the icicle prefers.

[selene-18.livejournal.com]

So damn right, Luxshine.

Instead of starting calling us names, saying bullshit, and building silly "anti-yaoi" leagues, why don't they stick to their "straight" fandom?

Would they like us to build a club for Anti-Yaoi's haters? Would they love to have an Anti-Hetero league?

I'd do it, but I prefer to stick up with my gays couples, and to hell with those who don't like it. All we ask is to be off alone with our tastes!

Actually, I don't care if this girl hates yaoi. But thinking she can delete yaoi from the fandom... So damn delicious, utterly and blatantly idiot.

As for me... There's a lot of anti-yaois that can't even think well. Oh no matter... More ridiculous ones for us to laugh at.

[luxshine.livejournal.com]

Well, there's an anti-anti-yaoi com, if I recall correctly. And there are some pro-yaoi fangirls that make me groan because they're as stupid as the anti-yaoi faction.

Thankfully, we're the sane ones away from all that kerfuffle.

[ariadnem.livejournal.com]

You're 100% right. We're still sane people. I don't intend to create anything against them...yet. I'm tempted...too tempted to do that, actually. But I won't fall as down as they had already. Ijust needed to take that antoyaoi shite out of my system...and it feels really good.

Now, this "character" doesn't learn, you know? she took a friend´s from the Spanish fandom fic and posted it on her Lj and didn't even credit. She just posted the link to ffiction and then the actual fic; our friend's profile is there and she said she didn't know the authoress ( zelha ). Today, Msaint delete the fic and kept the link but still doesn't credit her....¬¬

[selene-18.livejournal.com]

Really? Well, best for us to remain together and enjoy yaoi peacefully. However, should anti-yaoi come here and bug us, we shall attack too.

[ariadnelabys.livejournal.com]

She better doesn't come around my Labrys...I'll unleash the Minotaur if she dares....

[selene-18.livejournal.com]

She MIGHT do it... We'll never know, so we keep tridents, minotaurs and all the weaponry ready xD

[ariadnem.livejournal.com]

Poor her...muajajaajajajajajajja

[selene-18.livejournal.com]

I know xD and poor ALL YOU ANTI-YAOI who dare enter in our Yaoi world!